59. [WISE WOMAN] WITH BRI MCCORKELL - INITIATIONS WITH GRACE & REMEMBRANCE OF WHAT IS TRUE
Bri and I explore gorgeous deep threads of wisdom for mothers and families in this episode.
We recorded on April 1st just after the big eclipse portal. I had to release this one ahead of schedule as I share about some of my own recent initiations- some that are still in process.
Bri held beautiful space for me and was able to reflect with such grace that I instantly remembered what was true: I am here to love well and embrace it all along my soul's evolution.
Bri too shares about her fiery initiations that led her to the incredible work she does today.
I know this episode will be good medicine for many!
Bri McCorkell’s life is dedicated to healing the mother: connecting women back to the power of their original blueprint, to their wombs, to the sacred Feminine and to the earth.
Bri is a Reiki Master and Spiritual Teacher and uses her gifts of channeling and shamanic journeying to show women how to connect with their inner Divinity, what she refers to as our BIRTHRIGHT. She specializes in grief, conscious conception, family constellation and trauma work.
Bri lives with her husband Rory, their sons Holden & Noah, daughter June and a menagerie of animals in the Seacoast of New Hampshire.
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Bri: So my. I guess my experience of the word initiation isn't so much like a concept or something from the mind.
The energetic of it is almost like we're being thrust into an opportunity to open,
right? It's like there's always the gold in the shit, right? So every kind of. Whether it's like that grist, that challenge, that resistance, that like, like you talked about, like just feeling, sometimes the walls are like closing in on you or that like inner kind of skin crawling feeling,
it's like anytime the energies, there's chaos. Like, that's the feminine, right? And like she's. Things are getting stirred up. Like the muck from the inner pond is like coming to the surface.
It's an initiation, it's an opening.
And I find like, that rewriting that with for women is a place where we see, like,
life is not happening to us, it's happening for us. And this is an invitation to an opening. This is an invitation to an initiation. And you have to say yes,
right? And when we can see it as an initiation and something that's happening for us for our highest good instead of happening to us, then we open and then we let whatever chaos energy wants to come in to do whatever it needs to do to clear or to alchemize or to bring us back into remembrance or freedom.
And it's so much smoother and it's done with grace.
Whereas if we are closed and are like, why is this happening? Why is life happening to me? And we kind of start to maybe have some of that victim energy.
It's like that energy is still going to come in because it's here for you, but now there's a wall, so it has to come in with even more force,
right? So, like, if we can see things from the point of view of like, this is an initiation, this is an opportunity for me to open like, even more invulnerability, right?
In a raw kind of like, oh, fuck.
And just like, let the energy have its way with you.
And sometimes that requires us to. Like,
when we're in initiation, it's almost like we have to slow things all the way down and just like, hold ourselves and like, allow the energy to do its work.
The more that we try to, like, get involved through the mind or like, fixing the being or why is this happening? Or like figuring it out, like, it just.
It like muddies the waters and it makes things more difficult.
Emily: Everyone.
Bri: So easier to say from like, that, you know, when you're in it, you're in it.
Emily: Everyone who's listening. I want you to think about birth and the labor process and I want you to rewind and re listen with that in mind. I mean as above, so below.
Micro and macrocosm. It is all the same. We can boil it all down all the time to what the birthing process is like. And you just exactly described what labor can be like when you surrender to the ener.
It's just energy moving through you. It's energy moving through you. And when you can surrender to that, not be up in your mind trying to control it, being in resistance to it, when you can just surrender to it and let it move through your body, you will open and you will be reborn.
You will be initiated into motherhood. You will bring forth this beautiful gift of your baby. You will sacrifice the woman that you were before.
With every birth there must be a sacrifice. There must be a death that we need to honor that death with reverence.
There's so many pieces to the initiation journey, but I just love the way that you described that. It was perfect. And the whole time, of course my my brain's thinking about the labor process because that's what I'm obsessed with.
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Welcome, Bri, to the podcast. We've been talking about doing this interview for quite some time, and it's perfect timing. I just. I just dropped my son off at his forest preschool.
I drove home. I had like 30 minutes before we hopped on here. And I've just been taking some deep breaths and feeling into what we might discuss today. And I'm very happy to say we're just gonna let this flow where it needs to flow.
I would love, though, if you would just introduce yourself in whatever way feels good to you today and we'll just dive in.
Bri: Absolutely. Well, thank you for having me. I'm excited that everything aligned in divine timing for us to have the conversation.
My name's Bri McCorkle. I'm a mother,
I'm a wife, and I live with my family on the sea coast of New hampshire in the US in an old farmhouse, like 220 year old farmhouse.
Emily: Awesome.
Bri: Yeah, she is. She is my muse.
Holds us so well and is definitely one of my teachers, for sure.
My work, I would say,
to try to just summarize, I think, is. Is really in service to divine will and divine alignment and really like original innocence,
our pure essence,
who we are eternally, who we came in here to be,
and guiding women and mothers and families and children back to that original blueprint, which I like to call is their. Their birthright.
Birthright.
And so with that,
you know, in this time that we are and all the lives that most of us have lived includes a lot of deep shadow work.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: A lot of mystery. Trusting the mystery, trusting the unknown, coming into a new relationship with what darkness truly is in terms of like the fertile soil and the void and the place of creation.
So I tend to work with women who.
And families and children who are quite ancient and have that deep inner seed that's always kind of been maybe directing them from within or like some kind of a north star inner compass that they feel has been pulling them in a certain direction to really like, come back into remembrance of the real thing,
what's true,
and anchor that into the present time with such graciousness and appreciation for our humanity, like all of the parts.
And I do that mostly here, you know, virtually, sometimes out in the community.
And it's looked a lot of different ways over the Years since I birthed my first child about 11 years ago now.
Yeah. So I'm. I'm always learning and always humbled, and I feel like right now we're just in such a portal all the ways. Right.
Emily: We are recording this on April 1st for those of you that know, you know.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God. Everything you just said, Bri, just brought tears to my eyes, honestly.
First of all, my son's name is Kian, and it means ancient, and that's why I chose that name.
He is a very ancient soul, and his middle name is Asher, which means happy and blessed. So I thought he is ancient happiness, and I'm just birthing ancient happiness. And, oh, my God,
he is.
Bri: Wow.
Emily: He is.
Bri: It's beautiful.
Emily: And he's calling me and his father.
He's calling us into peace, you know, happiness, peace, joy.
And it's just because I know he's doing that. And I shared this on a previous episode, but when.
When he had those febrile seizures, when he was downstairs having his first seizure with Isaiah, I was upstairs catching some sleep because I had been up all night with him.
So I was in an altered state. I was sleeping, and he was in an altered state, having a seizure at exact same time that I was having this dream where Isaiah was looking me in the eyes and saying that he loved me.
Isaiah is my partner. Well,
we're not together. That's the thing.
But he was looking me in the eyes and saying that he loved me. And I was like, oh, no. Are you sure? Like, I don't. Like, I. That I can't receive that love.
I don't trust you. Like, it was that all of that came up in that moment. But then he looked at me again, and it was almost like it wasn't him.
It was like, God, you know, like, looking me straight in the eyes.
I love you. And I was like, oh,
okay, okay. You know, and. And I. And I leaned in and. And then here comes Isaiah, bounding up the steps with key and having a seizure. And I get pulled out of this dream,
and I can't not honor that. My son came to me in a dream and gave me some very important information. Like, he had this seizure.
But it wasn't just the seizure. It was for me to deepen into love.
It's not even a question.
And so we had, like, a few weeks of harmony in our home, but we are right back to that place where there's just that rub, that friction,
and, like, our egos are going at it again. And I don't feel safe to express my truest self, to be my truest self.
And a door just closed. I was going to move out,
but a door, that door closed. It's not an available option right now. So what I'm presented with is continuing to sit here in this experience and somehow alchemize.
Somehow alchemize. That's what's being asked of me right now. It's hard for me to really talk about the thing when I'm in it, and I'm very much in it. But what I.
What I felt a truth come up just here with this eclipse that we just went through.
It's really. I need to put this anger,
frustration,
this need to be right,
this ego.
I. I really need to put this down. Like, I really, really, really need to put this down. And my son is calling me. His ancient wisdom is calling me.
Oh, but there's so many layers to it, as, you know, there's so many. So many layers. And as a cyclical being, as a deeply cyclical being, like, I am, like,
I feel a lot all month long. And like, right now, my bleed just ended. I'm in my follicular. Like, I'm. I'm feeling more clear, but also feeling a little raw and tender.
Definitely also feeling a little raw and tender.
But, man, as I drift over into that luteal phase,
as the estrogen, as the progesterone, you know, drop,
I just feel like a caged animal,
you know, I just feel.
I don't even have words for it. All of your unhinged messaging,
you were. You did this amazing unhinged dance party. I wanted to go. I thought, you really need to bring that here to Maine.
Oh, it all just resonates. And then everything that you've talked about as far as perimenopause and just, like, stepping into this next phase and just. Just this experience. And the thing is, all these are archetypes, and like, every woman from birth to death, like, we hold it all within us.
We hold all of this. So it's not just for perimenopausal women, but, like, that is where I'm at.
And that's why I was also really excited to bring you on today, because,
again, I didn't. I don't know where this conversation's going to go, but I just felt like I needed to share all of that. So thank you.
Bri: It's really beautiful to just receive all of that and just feel how this. What you've created, like, this podcast, this vessel, this container is a space of deep medicine.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: For you. With what it's actually meant to be. Right. Is for you. And so I just want to recognize,
like, the deep vulnerability and, like, how really beautiful that was to sit and just witness you really share those pieces, you know, of your family and of your story and of your life and just to reflect.
I never, you know, part of my work is, like. Is reading the energy and, like, kind of going into the field and reading, you know, and I never do that without permission.
Like, I.
It always has to be like a yes from the higher self and something that, you know, the client and I kind of come into together. So I didn't do that.
But what. When you were talking about that initial dream and the seizure, like, the word that came in, the energy came in and was just like, reception.
Reception. Literally about, like. The energy is literally about, like, cracking the heart open and, like, letting all of those kind of, like, protective armor, you know, like that heavier stuff.
It's almost like a. It's like a reverbering from the earth that just, like, brings everything open and moves through the heart,
like, letting it all go.
And that, like, intensity of the dream and the eye contact and, like, the seizure, it was like that gorgeous feminine chaos energy that comes to open us and to, like, clear away,
right? All of. All of that layers of protection and all of the debris. It's. It's. It's of service.
It's of deep service.
And we.
It's. It's. It's like we just keep titrating it bit by bit and piece by piece, layer by layer. But there will be a time where it moves all the way through, and you come into a peaceful kingdom inside of yourself.
That constant titration, right, of how the pearl is formed.
It's the. It's the grit, it's the sandpaper that's actually,
you know, there for our highest good.
Having reverence for that is. Can be one of the funnest ways to shift the journey I found to get excited about, like, what is my grit? Who are my sandpaper people?
What are the situations and the experiences and the. And the beings and the humans that are like. Like getting that, mining that gem,
the earth, are, like, really creating that pearl.
Emily: I love that you're bringing in pearl because my maternal lineage, the name is Margaret, and Margaret actually means pearl. And my mom's name is Peggy, which is a short term for Margaret.
And so, like, I've done my ancestry and, like, all the way up, the better for, like, seven generations that I could find there Are Margarets on my mom's, like, my red thread.
So if I ever have a girl, her name will be Pearl.
It might be her middle name, but. Pearl. Holy smokes.
Bri: I don't want to say you just taught me something, because I never knew that Margaret meant Pearl, but my grandmother's maiden name, her last name is Pearl, and her sister and mother are Margaret.
Margaret, another Pearl, Pearl. And I never knew. So thank you for sharing that one.
Emily: Yeah, yeah, I don't even think she knows that.
Bri: So I have to.
Emily: That's amazing that we share that. And, you know, the work that I'm doing is a lot of that lineage line work.
And so I just love that you just brought that in here because I am a Pearl. That's literally what I'm doing here on this planet. Like, I am a pearl, right?
Bri: And something that one of my teachers has taught me is that,
you know, this. This kind of idea that all of the people in our life, or especially like in our intimate. Well, all the people, but like, especially in the kind of like our inner circle or our family,
including our partners, you know, our souls that have agreed to come and play that role for us.
And the. The souls that have come and agreed. Agreed to play the, like, the grit, like the grist, the sandpaper people are actually the souls that love us the most.
They've taken on,
right, like, that role,
like, from a place of deep love and reverence to, like, hold that and to be that for us, even though it may be incredibly painful as a human being in this lifetime, because most of us come in and forget.
You know, we're kind of like the slate's wipe clean in terms of memory and all of that. But, like, those people are the ones that love us the most and are here as teachers.
And that goes for our children.
You know, like, some of us have children or multiple children where one is just. I mean, even in the psychology or therapy world, they call them sandpaper kids.
And it's like that. That hit our stuff, right? That hit our wounds, that, like, trigger us. And that teaching of them being a soul that chose to come in to play that role, which often can be demonized.
And we can have a lot of projections and a lot of anger and a lot of resentments, and we can kind of throw our shit at them that they actually are here in the highest circus.
It can really, like, rearrange something.
That's huge.
Emily: I mean,
honestly, we could stop the podcast right now. Like,
that's really. I mean,
that's huge to reorient to have, you know, that horizon view of life, to see things from that perspective. It's that soul remembering. Like, when you said that I, like, remembered.
That was true.
Bri: Of course you did. And we remember, like, exactly when it's time.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: You know, and that itself, that remembrance,
that's what it is. It's returning to an original innocence and, like, seeing the soul, our soul, our loved one's souls, our children's souls,
like, for their. In their true blueprint, in their original birthright. And like, almost getting this, like, really cosmic or like, out of time view of, like, the constellation.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Air family. And that's something that I. Part of the work that I do. It's like a. It's a small offering right now, but it's called keepsake. And it's.
Emily: Yeah, tell us about.
Bri: It's a reading.
And it's typically. I've been doing them for mothers reading their children, kind of going in and obviously getting, you know, a. Yes. From their higher self, their, you know, their higher soul.
But going in and their higher self shows me their blueprint, their original essence, their innate innocence. Who they came here to be, why they chose you as a mother, why, like, who you've been in other lifetimes together.
Information. They want you to know about their gestation, their conception, their birth, their life. And it's like this. This view of them as a. As a soul being and why they chose you.
And then also kind of like the constellation and what they're in service to in your family.
It really just helps us, especially us mothers who maybe we have younger children or maybe we're in, you know, a change in life, whether it's from maiden to mother or mother into the crone.
And whatever is coming up is, you know, in our life is. It's kind of having an impact on our relationship with our child. It gives us that. That deeper insight or that.
That kind of deep, you know, different view to be able to actually see what's going on and then we can root or anchor into that times of turbulence. Right. It, like, helps you to be, like, in the eye of the storm and have remembrance.
Emily: Yeah.
I want to dive deeper into this because I'm. I'm always so curious about people when, like, their gifts are coming online or if they were born with gifts. And I want to know about you specifically and.
Because not everybody can tap into the field and read that soul's imprint and. Yeah. So I want to. I'm just. I'm so curious. Please tell me, like, how did you come into this Work.
I know it's a huge question, and I know it encompasses your life in many lives before, but do your best.
Bri: I will. I'm like, I'm. I'm a sacral, like, responder, so I respond like, you know, specific questions. But this is good for me to kind of sit in the mystery.
So I would say that I've. I've. I'm a very old soul.
And I came into this life with an aspect of remembering and knowing that having this deeper connection to the deeper thing, the real thing,
God, source, creation, like whatever you want to call it.
But I think my path has really been one of hard knocks.
Losing my twin in utero,
significant birth trauma.
Being the oldest mature soul in my family. I was an only child, so. And I grew up in a, you know, with parents who loved me and I still love.
And we. We have a relationship,
but it was a home of alcoholism and infidelity.
And so I really kind of was the classic adult child of an alcoholic. Like,
didn't really get to connect with the truth of who I was because I was just kind of of service in the adult, even when I was like a toddler to my family.
So it's really like I. I spent the first, probably 30 years of my life really trapped outside of myself.
Interestingly, I was born in Salem, Mass.
So and that's kind of like where all my family lives. So kind of gives you an idea My. My family lineage. There's a lot of heaviness,
A lot of heaviness in my. In my family line. My soul lineage has a lot of very much like working with children, working with animals, being of service, kind of Joan of Arc type energy.
Like, I remember my original lifetime in Lemuria. I re. My body remembers the fall,
that original separation.
And I think growing up in Salem, like, that helped me to have that deeper connection and like, almost remember it in a way that felt normal. Like, even when I moved and was going through my things from my childhood, like, I found like, all of these, you know, tarot cards and horoscope books and like,
you know, the life of trees and their deeper meaning and like, you know, like, I had that. That access that was very. A normal part of my life, even though no one else was really available or interested in that.
And I had my own journey with addiction and alcoholism and really feeding that heavy energy up until really the birth of my first son was when I started my. It was kind of like my first mini awakening.
You know, I was working as a school psychologist. I was working full Time I was, like, drinking wine every night.
I was just not in tune. I was kind of living on, like, the outskirts, you know, very much asleep for the most part.
And the birth of each of my children, first my son and then my daughter, and then my third.
It's kind of like what you were talking about. It's like we end up birthing an aspect of ourselves. And, like, I've had to sift through and sit in the grist and the sand and the darkness and the heaviness, like,
through,
you know, working with, you know, holistic practitioners and just working with God and working with myself. And, like, I have been on a path of deep study and exploration of energetics and spirituality.
The womb, women, birth, conception, like, all of it. Just life and death.
I feel like I've moved through so many initiations in this lifetime,
and everyone just, like, reveals,
like, a deeper layer, more remembrance. Because when you stay and surrender and you have that, like,
on your knees, just,
okay, full trust, like, letting everything go, kind of let go and let God, I just come back to that.
Letting the energy kind of have its way, and it just always brings me to,
like, a truer place.
Emily: So you really began this work. You said Your oldest is 11,
so around 11 years ago.
And did you have teachers or mentors or guides that you. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Bri: Any. Yeah, I've had. I've had a teacher this entire time who is quite. She's almost in her 80s now.
Emily: Oh, love that.
Bri: Yeah. Monthly calls, you know, for the last decade with her, and she was the. That literally snapped me out of my drinking and alcoholism.
This is who you are. This is what you're here to do, and you will never access it from this place, and you will die. And you're like. She. It was like the sword of Cali Kelly, like.
And that was it.
And it was like, okay. Like, it was like time stopped. And I could see, like, the different paths, right? Like, the different timelines play out.
And, like, that was it. I was just like, okay, that's all done. I let it all go. I quit my job. I stayed home with my baby. I got sober.
I got off antidepressants, and I. And I felt it all, like, 31 years of, like, suppression and pain and trauma and all of it. Like, I sat and just felt it, and it was.
It was intense. It was. It was. I mean, you can feel it. It was one of the most intense experiences of my life.
Emily: In the midst of being a new mom.
Bri: Yeah. My third baby.
Emily: Oh, Brie. Wow.
Bri: And we had just Moved up here and I was alone and like. Yeah, I was like, colicky, baby, like feeling all that,
you know, but we're forged. We are forged in the fire.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: And I think one of the. The things that's really beautiful about working with women and mothers now is like, not only do we get to like feel God in our body,
like, remember, and like, I just. I'm never doing anything for them. I just connect up and help them. Their line of force to connect up to help them remember. But, like, I've like, as a human being, my human in this lifetime and in others has chosen to be forged through the fire.
So, like,
I. I've also walked through the experience which I feel like me with all of my teachers, like working with mothers, working with people that have gone through these initiations,
that feels really important to me.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: It's not speaking about it and not that that can't be of service, but like having actually been lived it and have that embodied, like template and map.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: To guide other women. Okay. Like, here's where you are, here's what's true, and here's where you are. I feel like that is really important.
Emily: Yeah,
I absolutely agree. That's why I.
The title of my podcast embodied Wise Women. You know, I bring people on that I feel are embodied and what it is that they are moving through. And you know,
one of the biggest revelations for me,
I'm not sure exactly when it was, sometime maybe in the last three years, was really honing in on this word initiation and like, bringing it into my body and the tangible moments of my life and like rewriting the script as to what an initiation is.
So maybe you want to speak to that a little bit, because even though I've always been like a highly sensitive person, I've always been rather tapped into what is true, what is not seeing through to the truth in myself and others,
but not really having language for what I was experiencing. And as soon as there's language put to something, it actually up levels you. Like there's that understanding. And so, yeah, I'd love for you to speak a little bit to initiations.
Bri: You know, it's funny, I was just chatting about this with a friend last night,
how sometimes we'll be moving through something and like, the word for it will just like, as I'm talking will come out of my mouth. But I actually, my mind has no idea what that word means.
But when I go to look it up.
Oh, that's exactly it.
Like, that's the word for this. Right. If There even is a word. I mean, sometimes these, these just what we're experiencing now, it's these embodied wise women. There are no words.
So my. I guess my experience of the word initiation isn't so much like a concept or something from the mind.
The energetic of it is almost like we're being thrust into an opportunity to open,
right? It's like there's always the gold in the shit, right? So every kind of. Whether it's like that grist, that challenge, that resistance, that like, like you talked about, like just feeling, sometimes the walls are like closing in on you or that like inner kind of skin crawling feeling,
it's like anytime the energies, there's chaos. Like that's the feminine, right? And like she's. Things are getting stirred up. Like the muck from the inner pond is like coming to the surface.
It's an initiation, it's an opening.
And I find like that rewriting that with for women is a place where we see like,
life is not happening to us, it's happening for us. And this is an invitation to an opening. This is an invitation to an initiation. And you have to say yes,
right? And when we can see it as an initiation and something that's happening for us for our highest good instead of happening to us, then we open.
And then we let whatever chaos energy wants to come in to do whatever it needs to do to clear or to alchemize or to bring us back into remembrance or freedom.
And it's so much smoother and it's done with grace.
Whereas if we are closed and are like, why is this happening? Why is life happening to me? And we kind of start to maybe have some of that victim energy.
It's like that energy is still going to come in because it's here for you, but now there's a wall, so it has to come in with even more force,
right? So, like, if we can see things from the point of view of like, this is an initiation, this is an opportunity for me to open like even more in vulnerability, right?
In a raw kind of like, oh, fuck.
And just like, let the energy have its way with you.
And sometimes that requires us to, like when we're in initiation, it's almost like we have to slow things all the way down and just like hold ourselves and like, allow the energy to do its work.
The more that we try to like, get involved through the mind or like fixing the being or why is this happening? Or like figuring it out, like, it just,
it like muddies the waters and it makes things more Difficult everyone,
or so easier to say from like, you know, when you're in it, you're in.
Emily: It, everyone who's listening. I want you to think about birth and the labor process.
And I want you to rewind and re listen with that in mind. I mean, as above, so below. Micro and macrocosm, it is all the same. We can boil it all down all the time to what the birthing process is like.
And you just exactly described what labor can be like when you surrender to the ener. It's just energy moving through you. It's energy moving through you. And when you can surrender to that, not be up in your mind trying to control it, being in resistance to it, when you can just surrender to it and let it move through your body,
you will open and you will be reborn. You will be initiated into motherhood. You will bring forth this beautiful gift of your baby. You will sacrifice the woman that you were before.
With every birth, there must be a sacrifice. There must be a death that we need to honor that death with reverence.
There's so many pieces to the initiation journey, but I just love the way that you described that. It was perfect. And the whole time, of course, my.
My brain's thinking about the labor process, because that's what I'm obsessed with. But this happens also in our lives, like, all of the time.
Bri: Life is always here for us. It's like birth. We are constantly rebirthing ourselves and being born anew. And that's what that big energy is. It's. It's the feminine.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Life. It's chaos. And like, we can either fight it and, you know, like the whole process, like you just so beautifully connected into birth. Right. Resist and it brings up fear of force.
We're human. That's normal. That's like a part of. Part of, like, how we're here and how we're wired. But it's all about, like,
you know, kind of seeing it as something that we can turn towards Right. And like, orient to and have reverence for and allow, or at least practice allowing or,
you know, we don't have to do that sometimes we are not able to access that. And it will still come through. You're still going to birth your baby. Right. Like, you'll still come out on the other side.
It's just there is an opportunity here to shift our relationship with the energy.
Right. And like, allow it in while. So it doesn't have to require to break us open,
have to come in with such force.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Because we're listening, because we're attuned or because we're. We're working with somebody who can help us to see, like, oh, this is what this is. Here's where you are. Like this and.
Okay. Right. And like that to help us trigger our remembrance.
Emily: Yes. It's so every. I mean shamanic is just a term that we can use for like the most ancient of all languages to like what we are here on this planet Earth.
But like, you know, what I do in the birth realm and what you do, it is shamanic. It is that you are here and this is what is happening. Explaining and helping that woman like me when I'm angering her into this is what's happening.
You're here. You know, let it move through.
It is a whole shamanic journey to be in that birth portal. And I was going to say something else and I. It just completely lost my. Lost my brain. So I forget what I was going to say.
Bri: We'll come back if it's true.
Emily: Yeah,
yeah, it left me.
But I do wanna bring it back to your keepsakes offering because I'm curious about,
you know, you mentioned initiations and going through and it's been 11 years, but like for one to actually tap into, as you say, the field and to be able to read souls, that's kind of a big deal.
Bree, I wanna know a little bit more about how you moved into that in your process in doing that.
Bri: You know, I don't really know.
I know and can feel that I have been like a birth keeper for millennia.
So I think it's something that has just been,
you know, we all have gifts, we all have like ways that we have been of service.
We all like. It's a part of our birthright who we came here to be.
Sacred ways of working and being in reverence and with our creator.
So I think for me, birth keeping,
working with mothers and children. And I think it's something that I've always known. Hmm.
It's been kind of revealed to me piece by piece and has deepened piece by piece with each time that I've been willing to go into a dark night of the soul or go into air the void I come seem to come out with a clearer knowing or more sight or a remembrance or an activation of,
you know, my own personal unique kind of template which we all have the ability to do, which is what I guide women in through, you know, our deep one on one mentorship which is typically a year,
it's been called homecoming, but it's actually now Birthright is helping women to Return to their original birthright and remember their gifts and who they came to be.
But I guess, like, on the external world to give examples,
you know, I. I just listen and I follow the call or I follow the crumbs. So I was called to be a child psychologist. And so working with the schools and working with children helped me to remember some of those pieces.
And working with families, um, I was called to the innate postpartum training shell. So I walked through that kind of portal in training of remembering, you know, that. That work, that doula.
Work with women and families and, like,
you know, the innate model of care and nourishment for the body and for the mother and for the baby and that whole thing,
you know, I've journeyed into becoming a Reiki master,
working in, you know, as a therapist, working with the womb, studying with our Vigo,
doing my. And belly work.
It's just like, little things that have dropped in. Like, it's time to do this now. It's time to learn this. And I think it's just been, like, these little remembrances bit by bit.
So when I work with women in my deeper mentorship, it's like, okay, like, who are you?
Like, who are you? As an ancient soul now in time, which is all happening at once, what gifts are coming in now? Where, like, where's your dojo? Who's your gritty person?
Like, what are the lessons? Like, clear lineages. We clear undigested pain. You know, it's deep work depending on, you know, who you are as a soul and what you're here to hold.
But women are quite powerful.
Big systems, big energy.
And it takes.
It takes really.
I don't know if I could have remembered who I am. And I'm still remembering, and I'm still working through showing up as her, you know, especially, like, online and being really visible.
Like, that's something,
I think, like an old kind of residue of a wound being really seen and, like, taking up space.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Like, putting it all out there still has, like, a tinge of vulnerability. Not here and not like in certain, you know, but, like, we. I don't know if I could have ever moved through all of what I've moved through in this lifetime, at least without my teachers and guides.
Like, I think we need the community. We need other women.
I really like the whole idea of that.
Emily: Yeah. Actually, I just remembered what I was going to say, and it was about.
It was about relationships because we were talking about the woman and the. And the chaotic energy and, like, what we do that birth Death, rebirth cycle. Like, we literally embody that.
That is what we are. Like, we are that channel between the heavens and the earth.
And then there's men.
And, like, one of my things on this planet in this lifetime is the relationship piece, right? And, like, I'm so in it right now. The Isaiah, he.
I feel no recognition or reverence or understanding from him for me and what I am, like, all that I am, the fucking magic that I am. Like, what I did, I grew a baby and birthed a baby.
Like, just the magnificence of what a woman is. He comes from a very traditional Christian background.
He was raised by,
you know, a woman that I don't really find any vibration with. Like, we're very, very different. And.
And in the same way, like, my shadow side, the wanting to control, like, that is very similar to hers.
Yeah, but.
But I just feel so unappreciated is like, the simplest word you can see.
And, like, I feel like if a man really understood a woman,
there would be, like, that term prostration. Like, prostrate yourself. That is. That is a term that really comes to mind. Like, literally, forehead to the ground. Just,
you know, like, I see you. Thank you.
And not in some narcissistic way. Like, I. I don't even need to say that, but just to say it.
And it's that relationship, and it's the mutual respect, you know, for me to respect the masculine but without receiving it first.
It's just. That's one of my things here in this lifetime to figure out. And I wanted to pull that piece in because I thought you might have something to say about it.
Bri: Yeah, absolutely. I mean, that. That piece is so huge,
and it's right on time in our journeys. You know, this is what a lot of us are really moving through. I have recently moved through a huge initiation into a deeper relationship with my partner.
You know, sacred union, like, and it's been a doozy for me.
I would call myself a former.
I actually have, like, a program called Man Eater where, like, I had a part of me that wanted to destroy and crush the masculine.
Born from a deep wound of, you know, feeling betrayed and abandoned and, you know, any of those kind of layers of protection and things come from a deep wound or deep.
Yeah, mine went back all the way. It's, like, literally been playing out for, like, thousands of lifetimes,
then just, you know, go around. I'm like, hi, Sorry to work through here, but,
you know, we could honestly do, like, a whole nother podcast on this.
So I won't try to make it trite or cute.
What I have found is that our relationships are mirrors.
And they are typically mirroring an aspect of ourself that is so desperate to be acknowledged and witnessed and loved.
And,
you know, our inner children have kind of found each other to recruited each other to play this out. And like I said before, connecting it back to those people who are.
We have the hardest time with, typically are the souls that we have danced with before and love us the most and are willing to play this part out with us.
And this is something that I do in my work as well and can be a part of a reading. It's not just relationship with children, it's relationship with. With anyone relationships as our teacher.
But what I have found is that anything that I have perceived,
you know, I'll say this. Sometimes relationships, right? Like,
they. There just becomes a time when they're meant to end.
Like, sometimes that is what's true.
And yet I find if there's still like a charge or like something that gets activated, then there's an opportunity or an invitation, right? To be with something and to love on something internally, within ourselves.
An opportunity for us to alchemize a way that we are not loving to ourselves, a way that we are withholding love from ourselves, a way that we are not good enough or think that we are, you know, like some way that we feel that we are not worthy.
Right? Bringing that back to that reception piece, I found that if we go in and actually, like, work with those spots,
what we see in our relationship shifts.
And it's like an annoying answer because we're like, no, like, I just want him to change.
But as the feminine, we go first.
Emily: That's what our counselor keeps trying to tell me.
Bri: We go home for those of us like, you know, only children or oldest or like, whatever. Like, it's like, are you kidding? Like, I'm so sick of being right. It's like that inner child that's just like, I'm so sick of being the responsible one and the whatever one and the one who's doing the work and like,
blah, blah, blah. But it's like, okay,
so allowing that to have space to like, rage that out, to write that out, to like, let her have love, her feelings.
And it's not like a one and done thing.
Like, that is of service if she's pissed and resentful. That aspect of us. It's really hard to be in reception. It's really hard to, like, connect and receive love because we have somebody in there who's like ready to go.
Emily: You know it, I know it.
Many women listening, we know that inner resentful archetype.
Yeah.
Yeah. She does need space to express. She really does. And I really, like, I can't expect. Trust him to hold that part of me. Like I have to hold that part of me.
Bri: Yeah.
Emily: And that makes me even more angry sometimes actually.
Bri: All that part. All she wants is you.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Doesn't want anybody else. She just wants you. And. You know the greatest growth in my marriage? We've been together since we were 19.
Emily: Wow.
Bri: I don't even know. 23 years. 20. I don't even know.
And we have died and reborn and had to like, choose each other a million times where there was times where I was like, oh, no, this is ending.
There was just a shift in me where actually it wasn't. It was like a. A this. But it wasn't from a place of reactivity or like fu. Like protection or any of that, like emotional kind of like it was just like, okay,
like I just stopped the part of me that felt like she needed to mother him or change him or was invested in him being different or like it just like let go.
He's like all these tetherings of like thin air balloon. Right? Like it, like all those stakes into the ground. It's just like.
And I was just like, okay.
And that like shifted the whole thing where I was just like, I'm. You know what? I love him, will always be parents.
Like, I have so much reverence for him. I see who he is as a soul. But like, I. It's like everything just unplugged. And it wasn't in a fucky way.
It's really hard to describe it. It was like in a place of deep love for myself and for him. And I was like, I'm not. I'm no longer willing to self abandon and like be in this like push, pull energy.
Like I'm just gonna like love myself and love him and accept wherever he is, whatever choices he makes.
And like, I don't know, there was just like some kind of. It was a. It was a big energetic shift and it wasn't all me, but ever since then, like, oh my God,
like, being replanted and like,
like it's. It's. It's been like a crazy shift.
Emily: Yeah. I. I have had moments. I've had weeks, months even of feeling what you're saying. And there's so much peace within me in the. In those times. But it keeps cycling back around though, for me, like I lose sight of that.
And that. That to me is.
Is the frustration. That's the rub, because I don't stay there.
Bri: Well, what if, like, you know, the healing work, right? The feminine journey is right? And so what if, like,
you are just. You are alchemizing this spot and then you come back to it at a deeper layer, and then you alchemize it some more, and then you come back to it in a deeper layer, and then you alchemize it some more until you get to the root.
There will be door.
And like, then it's. But we just keep coming back to it. And like, when you're in it, like my teacher always say, like, don't pop up, don't pop out, stay down.
And like, there's been weeks. And I, Like, I haven't done this a lot, but there's been weeks where I'm just like, okay, like, I'm sitting and I'm like staring at a wall and I'm letting the energy work me because I'm going all the way through this time, God willing.
Because we want to pop out and do and fix. And then it's like, well, okay, you know, we were down at the bottom kind of getting all the good stuff out, and then we popped up to the surface.
And that's fine. Sometimes that what's. What it needs to look like as mothers.
Right? But, like,
we can really stay down there and let it work us. And like, the energy will let us know when it's through. Not like our mind deciding, yeah, these other things to do.
Emily: Yeah, I. Thank you. This is resonating so much. Like, I.
They left. They went up north. Kian and Isaiah went up north for the weekend. And I was on my bleed and I had like, almost three days of alone time.
And it was just magic, Bri. It was so magic. And the peace came over me and, you know, the revelations revealed. And I was like, okay, you know, here we go.
And things were really nice.
And then last night I go,
okay, Kian really needs to be asleep by 8:00. Like, he's not getting enough sleep at night,
so his bath needs to be over by 7:30. We're in bed reading books by 7:45 so that he can be asleep by 8.
And Isaiah instantly was like,
this isn't even a conversation. You're just gonna dictate and you're just gonna tell me what to do. And I was like,
this is for our child's wellbeing. Like, I just, like, the rage came up and I Was like, you just see me as some controlling tyrant, and I am just, like, trying to do what's best for our son.
And so I like. And this is also conversations from our teachers at the preschool. They're like, giving me advice, like, I think Kia needs more sleep. I'm like, I think you're right.
So let's try to get him to bed earlier.
And so, like, I like, ask Google AI, I'm like, optimal bedtime and amount of hours of sleep for a two and a half year old. And it's like in bed between 7 and 8, you know, they need anywhere from 12 to 14 hours.
They should sleep 10 to 12 at night and have their two hour nap. And so I just, like, send him a screenshot. And I, like, sent him our teacher's contacts.
I'm like, why don't you just ask AI? Talk to these teachers? Like, I'm not trying to control you. I'm literally just trying to have our son sleep enough. And, like, it all just flared up over this one little thing.
And it's just like another layer, another time around the spiral. Like,
hmm, okay, I'm gonna let this energy just, like, move through and alchemize. Yeah, let's just let that move through.
Bri: Yeah. Well, I think, you know, in a relationship, oftentimes, especially with people that we've been, you know, we're comfortable with, like our partners, it's like,
I was actually just working with a couple last night around this, and it's like, can. Can you. Can we feel what's underneath that request? Right? Or that, like, bedtime thing, Right?
Like the communication with your partner around the bedtime,
can we feel what's underneath it? Because what's underneath what we say or request or like, a to do is there's typically like a deeper, tender layer. Right? And so for you, underneath that,
that, like, okay, I want him to go to bed at this time. This is what he needs. This is what's best. Here's like, this snapshot of whatever,
and I'm just paraphrasing for you here, so forgive me if I get it incorrect, but it's like, I. I really, like, I'm worried that our son is not getting enough rest.
I'm, you know, I want him. I have this deep desire for my son, for our son to be nourished and well, and held and be grounded, right? And, like, really have that, like, optimal functioning.
And maybe it's actually hitting like, a tender spot of, like, him, you know, he's had these seizures. Like, there might be an aspect of you that is tender and is a little bit nervous and wants to keep him well.
Right. So there might be, like, a little bit of that fear, control, energy in there, but, like, the deeper thing underneath that is,
like, this tender desire for your son's wellness and well being.
So what might shift in your relationship with your partner, whether, you know, you guys stayed on the same trajectory you're on now or not, if you were to actually communicate with the tender thing that's underneath.
Right? Like, might have he been able to receive that.
Emily: Yeah.
Bri: Softer, like, thing, which is really the thing. It just had that, like, kind of hardened, crusty layer on top.
Emily: Yep. And that's what he said. He was like, your delivery sucks.
Bri: Right? And it's like, well, you can. You can see that, like, if someone was like, this is what you need to do about your child. You might be like, okay, you know, so it's like, what is actually underneath this and for him,
what that might have touched instead of him. Like, he was like, your communication sucks. Like, he gave that back. But the tender layer under there might be like, why don't you trust me?
You don't trust me to, like, hold and care for our son? Like, you don't trust me as a man to, like, do this? Like, you have your hand in it.
Why can't you trust me? Right. Like, that might. That might be touching, like, a wound for him.
It's like, if we can get into these, like, deeper layers of, like, what actually is being felt here. There's a lot of softness and grief. Right. And, like, tenderness where we can actually, like.
Oh,
like, get in touch with the deeper, real thing and then we can connect from that place, which is really, like, the place of truth, which is really, like, where we can work in that fertile soil rather than, like, throwing, like, in sticks and stuff, Right.
The requiredness of, like, deep vulnerability.
All the work is, like, radical responsibility.
Like the, you know, truth. The sort of truth, like, it's. It's not for the faint of heart.
Emily: Yeah, it's not. And, you know, that's why I so appreciate you coming on to share,
because it really is, like, we don't have very good examples. We don't have the map out there in the world for the most part. And that's again, why I call in embodied wise women to come and, like, lead by example and show us this map and help us make sense of this crazy thing we call life,
this soul evolution that we are on.
Yeah.
So, Bri, I. I want to leave space for you to Share anything that is on your heart. And I also want to hear a little bit more about your offerings and what it is that you do for women and families.
Bri: Yeah, absolutely.
My work is really kind of meeting women and families and partners and children right where they are. So I do have opportunities to work deeply with kind of the whole family constellation.
So we start with the mother and we tune in to just her, you know, kind of what we did today. Like, yeah, great example, right? Like holding your birthright, seeing who you are, connecting you into that, that is my guide.
Like, that is who I work for. I work for the higher aspect of your soul. So I help women to come back into remembrance of that, holding that, the vibration and the frequency of that while we clear away the debris, the right, the undigested pain, trauma.
Work with a lot of women with deep trauma, birth trauma, sexual trauma, relationship, like all of those things. Those are those territories that we navigate together,
really, like helping to alchemize and remember who they are. And then we also work with the children,
with their blueprints, with their who they are innately, why they chose you as a mother.
Helping them to alchemize and clear. It's all done, you know, over zoom or phone, and it's all energetic. So it can be done with the children are playing or sleeping.
Can be done on babies. Like the energy just works wherever we are.
It also can be working to help women connect with their spirit babies, feeling the souls that are in their field, preparing them for conception, you know, gestation, birth, all of that energetically.
Postpartum, like it's the energy comes in to hold and to guide and to just help in that. It's a kind of like a shamanic process wherever you are.
And I have been starting to work with couples as well, which has been truly beautiful, really, in reference to sacred union or just like being on their true path, whether it's together or, you know, parenting in that way.
So the mother is like the north star.
She is like the one who really holds her family and the whole thing. And so the work is really deepest through the mother, but we work with all pieces and parts of her family,
even souls that are coming in and have not arrived yet.
And that is either done in like a six month or a year, one on one process, which is called birthright.
It's interesting in that I typically only work with a handful of clients at once because it's quite deep work.
But you can just DM me, send me a message on Instagram and there's an application process just to make sure that, you know, we're a true fit.
And then I also have a one off offering that we mentioned, the Keepsake, which is just a reading of your viewer, your beloved's,
you know, their imprint, who they came here to be, what they want you to know, their kind of constellation in your family, who their soul has been, the gifts that they have to share with the world,
and maybe what some of the sandpapery stuff, you know, is about. It's really kind of like an opportunity for their higher self to speak. And that's a recording that I send to you.
It can be done at any time and it's something for you to have and to hold, especially as a mother, to anchor back into when, you know, the seas or the.
Or the energetics are. Are choppy or, you know, it's. You're finding a hard time to connect in amongst us. It's kind of like that anchor home into who they truly are and what truly is unfolding.
So that's a nice way for people to kind of sample the work and just get a flavor of it. I will have a workshop coming up, I believe, in the next few weeks, but I'm not sure if the podcast will be out by then, so I won't actually.
Emily: I'm going to release this one on the ninth. I'm gonna get it out soon. Yeah.
Bri: Okay. All right. Well, yeah, I think I have a workshop,
a virtual workshop coming up called Repair,
and it's kind of will be like an introduction to the energetics of how we actually make reparations with those that we love, how to. Actually, it's gonna be mostly like an energetic transmission, but I'll be working with people one on one and doing Q and A of like, how to get back to a time of fracture and how to make an actual,
like, energetic repair from the heart.
All loved ones. So we'll put the energy that way.
Emily: Wow. So is this going to be in person or over zoom?
Bri: No, it will be virtual for now. See how it feels and opportunity perhaps to do it in person.
Emily: Oh, my goodness, I feel such a resonance with you. I'd love to work with you.
Bri: Yes. Yeah, absolutely.
Emily: Yeah, we'll talk about it some more.
Bri: Yeah.
Emily: So I did have some notes here, but I don't think I need to go over any of them. I think we. I think we did. Awesome. Is there anything on your heart, though, that you'd like to share to.
It's mostly women that listen. Um,
yeah, anything on your heart.
Bri: I think that,
you know, as Women and mothers or mothers to be.
It can really feel like we are holding a lot and that we are holding it all.
And it's because we really,
in a sense, sometimes are. But I want to invite the women to know and, like, remember, it's because we are the portals of creation. Like, we are the vessel, the womb.
Like life and death and chaos and love and beauty and destruction, and, like, all of it. Like, it is within us. And so it's kind of like making an invitation to reorient, to, like, your majesty and your sacredness and to life happening for us and things being an initiation that can take us deeper into an opening,
a place of reception and prosperity and abundance. And life's just like life. Being full of life and seeing it from that point of view. Like, we get to dance with life in this way.
We get to open in this way. We get to yet to, like, you know, really create that pearl, like, internally and, like, be the thing to see it as for us.
I think that's really important.
Emily: It is crucial. It is really important.
Thank you for putting it into words.
Mm. I feel complete.
And I really appreciate your time today, Bri. And I love how we didn't have a plan, and I appreciate you holding space for me to share. I had no idea I was gonna share all that, so thank you.
Bri: Yeah, that was really beautiful to witness and receive. Feel like that will have a really, like, deep, deep effect on. On your listeners, on your women. Yeah.
Emily: It's all medicine, and I trust it.
Bri: Absolutely.
Emily: Yeah. Thank you. Would you please tell people your Instagram handle? And do you have a website?
Bri: I do. It's not updated, but a space to play. That's something that I'll be being birthed in 2025. My website is brimcorkle.com and my Instagram handle is bri.mccorkle.
Emily: And you have a substack too, right?
Bri: Yes. And what's that called? The Real Thing.
Emily: The Real thing. Thank you, Bri. I will link everything in the show notes.
Bri: Thank you so much.
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I offer birth debriefing and integration sessions for women, their families and birth workers.
I offer therapeutic one to one sessions, individually tailored mother blessings, closing of the bones and fear and trauma release ceremonies.
If any or all of this resonates, I offer a free 30 minute discovery call if you have a birth story to share or if you're a embodied wise woman, witch healer, medicine woman.
I am also interested in sharing your contribution to our soul evolution.
You can book in via the link in the show notes.
Thank you so much for your love and support everyone. Until next time, take really good care.
